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Anyone ever have Acid stain flake/wear off?

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KIMidwest	Anyone ever have Acid stain flake/wear off?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 5 04/12/10 03:59 PM	Tags : None we did a floor and had the no about 8 months later we had the Acid wear off, i would post a picture if i knew how. any ideas? sealer failure? thanks Nate
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EliteCreteMN		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 182 04/12/10 04:08 PM	Let's start by giving more info... what how dilutions green concrete or overlay steps taken sealers/epoxy wax A little more will go a LONG way. As for the pictures, goto your YUKU account and start a photo bucket. That way even is you can't post a picture here, you can always post a link to get to the picture. Good Luck Elite Crete of Minnesota *Dan Ryan* 10740 Lyndale Ave Bloomington, MN 55420 952.270.5035 [o] 888.883.7115 [f] dan.ryan@elitecrete.com **dan.ryan44 on Skype
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KIMidwest		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6 04/12/10 04:43 PM	basement floor, was an acid stain for an addition, half the floor was old with glue, other was relatively fresh. (well over 30 days but had some paint on it) all was ground, then washed, followed the same steps as ive done on previous jobs. was sealed with an acrylic sealer similiar to CSS. ( was done prior to my EC experiences.) was done with another companies product. was not waxed or epoxied. just 2 coats of the sealer. was diluted about 50/50 if i remember correct. thanks Nate
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KIMidwest		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7 04/12/10 04:50 PM
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KIMidwest		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8 04/12/10 04:51 PM	sorry dont know how to resize. figured out the pics tho thanks Nate
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KIMidwest		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9 04/12/10 04:52 PM	sorry for multiple posts, thinking outloud. my thoughts are a failure of the sealer properly bonding, and it taking the stain with it. thanks Nate
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awildturke		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 736 04/12/10 05:28 PM	Acid stain is reactive so it looks more topical than anything , looks to me like the chairs are wearing it off . Could be mastic wasnt all the way off in this area which means it is then topical , if that was the case .Clean again and restain and reseal whole floor . Was this part of the old or new floor. Tom M
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KIMidwest		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 10 04/12/10 05:51 PM	the new section, but there is other sections like it elsewhere in the floor, this is just the worst part. thanks Nate
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epofloors		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13 04/12/10 09:26 PM	chairs are like really rough sandpaper on the floor, those area's always need more attention. looks like the chair is basically sanding the floor for you. I have learned this lesson the hard way as well. I tell customer to get a plastic matt or a rug and put it there...but don't use the non-slip bubbles they react with the sealer and leave another annoying problem. The customer should have called before it got this bad...this is at this point abuse...in my opinion.
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ECOV LLC		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 366 04/13/10 06:59 PM	Looking at the picture it seems that the surface is breaking down, looks too sparatic to for the color to be coming off, that would be more shaded. This looks to me like the concrete surface is breaking down and coming off taking the color and sealer with it. Since the floor was ground I'm not thinking it is a finishing failure but it could be, I'm thinking that this might be a spot that didn't get neutralized and the acid continued to undemine the color and sealer. The chair wheels and a little dirt just happen to be abrasive enough to take things apart. I'm not trying to judge your work just an another IMO. Dave Elite Crete of the Ohio Valley www.elitecreteohiovalley.com dave.sharamitaro@elitecrete.com I'm not a doctor. . . . . I just play one on concrete.
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KIMidwest		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11 04/13/10 08:57 PM	Dave, you may be right, the chair has rollers, and although this is probably the most used spot, there are other spots as well that are for sure low or no-traffic. most of the other spots are under the size of a dime, some of them he admitted was where they dropped paint let it dry and scraped it off, taking some sealer with it. also has a few scratches in it from moving furniture. all of those i think are explainable, this larger spot is not. i guess my question now is what do i do about it. my distributor suggested Hydradye ( im sure i butchered this im just gettin used to all the EC terms) and then a coat of CSS with a wax on top. my 2 concerns are stopping this and any future problems, and blending it in. what do you guys think. thanks Nate
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ECOV LLC		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 371 04/14/10 12:08 PM	HYDRA-Stone Dye is probably your best product for patching. It will give a similar look and be ready for sealer almost immediately. Dave Elite Crete of the Ohio Valley www.elitecreteohiovalley.com dave.sharamitaro@elitecrete.com I'm not a doctor. . . . . I just play one on concrete.
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DCPlus		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 726 04/14/10 01:18 PM	Looks like a job for Leather Tan with a little Chocolate or Saddlebag to me. Trust me Nate, once you use Hydra-Stone, you may never acid stain again!! Love that CHIT! Billy deco-con_plus@att.net www.deco-concreteplus.com Facebook: Decorative Concrete Plus Twitter: @DCPlus
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mbruch	I have the same issue with a countertop	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 05/19/10 10:42 PM	The picture of the floor looks exactly like what my countertop in my outdoor kitchen looks like! I live in Southern California and the products were Elite Crete system products using an overlay technique. I believe the guys names was Mike - but I could not get him to come back out to fix it. I had another company come and they tried but within a couple weeks it looks like it is bubbling up and then the white flaky look all over again. Mine is also in various spots - but definitely on the bullnose - which certainly is not having chairs roll over it. I was looking up Elite to call customer support and found this website. I would appreciate any help and guidance you can give me. My countertop is about three years old now, but has never been right. Thanks Last Edited By: mbruch 05/19/10 10:48 PM. Edited 1 time.
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