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concretegraphics |
microfinish on a wall? |
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have a customer that wants mf on a garage floor and walls. Anyone have pics and instructions?
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Art on Concrete |
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No. It's the same thing than doing a floor except that you start from the bottom to avoid drips. staining is the same also. do some practice as it gets tricky sometimes.
Simon www.artsurbeton.com |
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KKAL1 |
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Refer to this post.
Micro Job It shows pics of a tri-colored micro job. No staining involved. Just apply micro coats and sand in between and you get a beaut! Could easily be done on walls, but sanding would be more difficult. Kurt www.k2cr.com |
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Elite Ohio |
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Trying to do a mf on walls would be an incredible pain in the ass. It would be more labor intensive than its worth. Be careful of people telling you how easy things would be, and trust me they are not. I remember a dude tauting on the sight he and his helper could stamp 4000' sq ft a day. Now that is just totally unrealistic or another who suggest you should build a refridgeration unit on the trailer to keep your bags of material cool..........................................
All I am trying to say is anything dealing with the biz is not easy and is usually time consuming and doing a micro fish on walls is just unheard of. Imagine troweling on 2 coats of tf and then 2 coats of mf each sanded. I think I would rather shoot myself in the head, cause that is what you will want to do if you try to mf walls. Kirk Dec-a-Crete |
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DCS Inc |
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I got the bright idea to redo my fireplace a while back. I wanted to lower the hearth for my plasma. It took a few days more than the weekend I estimated.
I did a micro on this, and wasn't happy with the color, so I acid stained it too. Antique black. I didn't shoot myself in the foot but did stub the toe pretty hard. It actually wasn't that difficult, just way time consuming. And the dust......sheesh. (I did shoot myself in the foot wet polishing the hearth and mantle.) gene ec-Indy
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Elite Ohio |
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Gene that fireplace looks nice. That is a small area though, try doing that to all the walls in the room.
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ecom |
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Actually, micro on a vertical doesn't have to be difficult. Use a paint tray and roll on a couple square feet with a roller, then immediately scrape trowel it. Instead of sanding, use a damp sponge w/ bucket of water to smooth/remove your micro...no more dust. A very simple process actually. But at 5-15 a sqft you need to get to make the same profit you make on a floor, your customer base is limited those who want something different and are willing to pay for it. The customer who would pay for venetian plaster or high-end alternative wall covering....not a large segment of the population in most areas.
Approx 320 sqft of wall in my shop, equivalent to all the walls in a 10X10 room. took one guy three calender days and less than 20 man hours. Although Jorge Luna can do it faster than most, it's not as bad as one would think after reading the previous posts. first day spray initial coat, very light just to get some fine agg on the wall w/o dripping, that drys very quickly with fan assistance. then use paint tray to roll a sqft or three of Thin Finish on the wall, use a paint brush in the corners, apply thick and immediately trowel finish smooth, let dry overnight, next day put down tape if designing, and apply one coat of micro, two coats if first coat doesn't look like you want it too. Next day seal lightly with CSS (tricky), and we spray a wax/oil/silicon furniture polish (Spartan Citrus Shield) and buff it with a rag. Gives it a satin finish that won't mark with prints or hold dust. I did some scribing and tinted sealer and epoxy on the corner piece too. No more challenging than your average interior job. ![]()
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matrixtech |
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we did a micro vertical for a customer a while back....... It was much easier than I thought it was going to be. Just brushed on and back trawled. No problem.
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So do you have to go over cement board or could you go over existing textured and painted drywall?
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DCS Inc |
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Roll your wall with Cpr1000. Let dry and then base coat with Thin Finish. From there you can do the Micro finish or what ever. You don't need backer board..... at least my guys I teach don't need it.
Now if you are going over wood, do the diamond mesh thing. If you are applying thick, use the diamond mesh or at least the scrim (sp) as reinforcement into a scratch coat. gene ec-Indy |
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