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Cabby89	Seperating Reflector Colors		Lead	[-]
Posts: 22 10/05/10 12:36 PM	Tags : None Im wanting to separate colors in the floor to make borders or pathways in the floor with crisp lines. My thought was using something similar to how a terrazzo floor is done. Has anyone used divider strips like this with epoxy floors? Looking through the EC photo gallery they have pics of very crisp cut lines. Are the pictures just of pt4 products ? How is reflector being used in those pictures, its a diff. look from when I use reflector in crystal epoxy.
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briandeas		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 158 10/05/10 08:55 PM	These are the same kind people that built the effin pyramids... They don't play. I can only take a stab at it. Serious layers and serious masking along with a very accomplished eye paying close attention to fine detail, color and technique..... If I had a chance to do one, i would love to! I'm up for a challenge. Gene?
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ECOV LLC		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 466 10/06/10 10:43 AM	Cab, do you need the divider strip for the look you are going for or just trying to seperate colors? I have done some nice seperation with blue painters tape, start with an epoxy base, mask with blue tape and make sure it is well adhered, pull the tape about 3 to 4 hours after putting down the epoxy while it is still very soft but no longer moving. This is how the circle was done at the WOC Artisans exhibit last year. Check out the taping in the video and how sharp the circle came out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j58F-ANMWT4 After all parts are done a solid clear coat is applied over the colored areas to bring it to a seamless surface. Dave Elite Crete of the Ohio Valley www.elitecreteohiovalley.com dave.sharamitaro@elitecrete.com I'm not a doctor. . . . . I just play one on concrete.
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Cabby89		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 23 10/06/10 02:27 PM	have yet to work with PT4 but my next project in a garage I am using it for the first time. Was going to do a border around the area in one color and then a different color inside. Thought was to border it with a divider strip and lay out each section separately. Though if Im working with PT4 your saying I could just tape the border and lay it out and let it dry before doing the inside? This was my last floor. While I love the uniqueness of not having a straight transition, I really want to try and make it crisp on my next one. Last Edited By: Cabby89 10/06/10 02:31 PM. Edited 1 time.
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ECOV LLC		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 469 10/06/10 09:53 PM	Cab, You can base it with PT4 or tinted VB6 and blue tape over it for your crisp lines. Mix and apply your money coat up to the tape and do whatever blending, flipping, rolling, torching or what you will and after a few hours while it is still soft and sticky but no longer moving pull the tape. The next day if you are going to bring another color up to it you can back tape over what you have done and do the other side but be careful and sock feet only on the first taped surface. Coat the whole surface with a thin topcoat to make it feel seemless. Try it on a sample board first. Dave Elite Crete of the Ohio Valley www.elitecreteohiovalley.com dave.sharamitaro@elitecrete.com I'm not a doctor. . . . . I just play one on concrete.
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dekco		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 186 10/13/10 03:13 PM	Hey Cab , those strips between terrazo are called cove strips..they are cemented into the concrete underneath before pouring the terrazo so as to give depth levels ranging between 1" to two inches. and also work as expansion joints. . As Dave and the others said seperating colors in epoxy is done by taping , double taping and triple taping to get a build so the epoxy does not run over the tape depending on how many mils you putting down.
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DCS Inc		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3001 10/13/10 04:47 PM	When Dave and I did the artistry thing last year at Vegas, I wanted to separate the colors around the dark side of the moon center piece with divider strips. I found some that you set into a saw cut line. You have to be on the money on saw depth but thought this a good idea. Just epoxy them down and go. Well after figuring the time we didn't have, I decided to just blend the colors around the outside. These strips would be a good idea but if you didn't get a full fill on them, I feel they would become trip hazards. Sure you could sand/grind them, down but that would be a real added time thing..... with another top coat. Tape is the way and pull early. If left till dry, you have to score the epoxy with a razor. gene EC-Indy
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Posts: 1 12/01/10 06:50 AM	hi Guys just like to point out that the pic you are looking at with all the different colours on it is in fact a stencil and not a Reflector floor, i know this because the company that did the floor is called Preferred and they are stationed here in Dubai. the process is as follows. first they Prepted the floor with a HTC 500 floor grinder, then laid a solid white epoxy as a base coat, once white epoxy had fully cured they laid the coloured stencil. (this was not an easy achievment due to the size of the stencil) then they top the who thing off with 10mm of PT1 clear. the 10mm top coat was done in stages to prevent excess gassing off of the PT1. as for seperating Reflector colours the above post are spot on with the taping off. i have done this process myself, the key is to remove the tape at the right time. to soon and the Reflector will move, to late and be prepared to get down on your hands and knees with a sharp stanley blade. good luck
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Cabby89		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 38 12/01/10 07:41 PM	Figured that it wasnt a reflector floor but rather an epoxy floor with a pt1 coating. This is my practice sample at dividing colors with reflector.
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ECOV LLC		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 488 12/02/10 11:27 AM	Cabby, It looks like you are on the right track. As Preferred said, its all a matter of timing in pulling the tape. If you watch Gene's video of last years WOC Artistry piece the circle is seperated from the blend of colors with blue painters tape and pulled to be a very nice seperation. This is a top that I made for a display case at my studio where I used UV1 (because I had a partial kit of UV1 to use) and different colors of REFLECTOR. This was done in three applications, the bowtie being last. I used some chrome tape around the bowtie for effect but it wasn't necessary. With a top coat of UV-1 and PROTEC-ALL you can't feel anything. The fake rivets are airbrushed with ULTRA-Stone and SYPP Black between the epoxy coats. Dave Elite Crete of the Ohio Valley www.elitecreteohiovalley.com dave.sharamitaro@elitecrete.com I'm not a doctor. . . . . I just play one on concrete.
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NBehnen		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 74 12/02/10 11:58 AM www.gatewayelitecrete.com	Cabby, Here was my first attempt at seperating colors. I pulled the tape a little early, so I had a few areas that ran a bit. You just need to play a little like anything else. Nick Behnen Gateway Elite Crete Email: nick.behnen@elitecrete.com Web: www.gatewayelitecrete.com
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awildturke		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 797 12/02/10 10:05 PM	Wow , Nick that is a cool look on that top . How did you achieve that . Tom m
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jr		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 27 01/09/11 06:50 PM	Search "Inlayed Reflector". Drop me a line if you have any questions.
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Concrete Interiors		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 131 05/16/11 10:36 AM	We just put the finishing touches on a Audi Dealer showroom with Coffee and Brass Reflector this morning and use Frog Tape with reinforced tape on top of it to get a clean crisp edge. The key is to wet the Frog Tape with a sponge ahead of time and before putting the reinforced tape on it. I will upload the pictures to my account this afternoon when I go back to check the second coat of Ausv. Jennifer Concrete Interiors Plus
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